Пеле Мали je napisao:
The_new_Statesman je napisao:
Toliko je zavrsena prica da npr. bosnjacko potenciranje zrtve upravo steti najvise njima. Ljudi moji, niko se ne zeli ubudale smarati sa tim.
Ено у Сарајеву у центру, поред католичке цркве стоји огроман билборд "Srebrenica exhibition, dont forget genocide" или нешто тако. Сваки странац који дође тамо види то. Како им то штети?
Hoces reci da sasosjecaju sa njima?
A ja ti kazem sta ih samo zanima... Hebote patak... Od cunamija je poginulo za jedan dan 250.000 ljudi. Gomila zapadnih turista... I mialis da je nekog posebno briga?
Цунами не утиче на политичке одлуке. Ево и код нас кад су биле поплаве, читав Балкан к`о једна држава па мјесец дана послије тога све по старом.
Па саосјећају, због тог саосјећања огромне паре су се слиле у БиХ, претежно у Федерацију. Можда је наша срећа па су они неспособнији од нас па зајебаше ствар. Цијеним да је Запад имао исти план као и са послијератном Њемачком.. новцем и инвестицијама приволити нас да се приклонимо унитарној БиХ као ономад И. Њемачку.
Има он јако добро знање о том шта се догађало овамо и шта се догађа генерално у свијету.
Hey,
~ thank you again for this wonderful information. Now I'm much more
interested and will probably do some more reading. When I was in school
I studied US History, but I had many friends who studied Cold War
history (US vs. USSR) and Eastern European History (Austria, the
Balkans, etc.). I spoke with these people often, and during that time
there was the Kosovo War also, so I learned quite a bit.
~ It is a very tough situation - almost like Iraq with the Kurds, or
Kurds in Turkey, or Armenians, etc. You have these countries that
Europeans set up in the 1900's and drew boundaries for colonies - not
around ethnic groups. And now there are people who want to have
countries based on their "ethnic" groups (which are largely social
constructs). On top of this we have the US hegemony, and the US push
for "democracy" everywhere! So what happens - people vote for
independence. The US is funny in this respect. We think we want people
to be able to vote to be free, but if you look back at the US in 1860
when half the country voted to become their own state we had a Civil
War. Plus we're forcing all the people in Iraq to stay as one country
rather than split up. We support countries all over the world that
force people to be together, then get mad when wars break out.
~ I think the problem is when wars of this sort break out people do
really horrible things to their neighbors. Of course, all war is
horrible, but a civil war has very confused battle lines. I think the
US involvement in the Kosovo war started because Madeline Albright (the
Secretary of State under president Bill Clinton) rembered the Holocaust
and WWII and when she became aware of what was happening in Kosovo
(especially after the US failure to intervene in Rowanda) she insisted
that NATO intervene. Because NATO was primarily concerned with stopping
the fighting they went after the people most able to fight - the Serbian
government and Slobodan Milosevic. Because Milosevic had access to all
the resources of the state in the fighting and because the KLA was
portrayed in the US media as a band of "freedom fighters" sympathy
obviously turned against Milosevic and the Serbs. I don't think anyone
in the US ever though there was a "bad" side - they recognized that
horrible things were being done by all the sides.
~ I recently saw the play "Scorched" by Wajdi Mouawad, and although it
is about Lebanon's civil war it reminded me very much of the Balkan War.
~ The play demonstrates how good people can do horrible things without
even really realizing it, and how the people who do horrible things in
civil wars destroy themselves as much as their enemies. If you get a
chance to see that play you should - it is really good.
~ Also - I am a historian so I'm very slow to pass judgment on people.
I understand that people have very complex motivations and rarely are
there simply "bad" people - there is usually a reason for violence on
the scale of a civil war.
~ In the end I think the war was a tragedy. I'm not sure how anyone
could make anything better (it's like the Palestinian situation now -
it's so horribly fucked up that it's pretty much impossible to make
things "right").
~
The good news for Serbs is that like most people, Americans have a
very short memory. If you asked most people in the US today what they
thought about Serbs, or the Balkan War, or Sarajevo, they wouldn't know
what the hell you were talking about Болдирани дио је јако истинит самооо проблем је што наше комшије немају кратко памћење.