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Shvatam ja to i podržavam. Samo komentarišem da automatizacija u svim sverama života pa i u autoindustriji vodi ka idiotizaciji korisnika. Vozači se oslanjaji previše na auto, ne učestvuju u vožnji koliko bi trebalo. Smio bih se opkladiti da, u slučaju nekog naučnog ispitivanja, pokazalo da vožnja sa manuelnim u odnosu na automatski mjenjač ima veću korist za mozak vozača.

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S druge strane, danasnji vozaci znaju koristiti daleko vise sistema u automobilu nego oni koji su auto palili na kurblu.
Idiotizam?


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Možda zoka hoće da kaže da ovi što koriste raznorazna pomagala i automatski mjenjač kad bi sjeli u auto bez tih pogodnosti ne bi se usudili ni krenuti, dok je obrnuta situacija posve drugačija.

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Ne znaju ljudi upaliti kurblom motor i masu stvari u svim sferama života gdje je tehnologija olakšala neke radnje koje danas se više ne rade. Tako će doći vrijeme kad neće postojati automobili sa manuelnim mjenjačem (ili uopšte mjenjačkog bilo kakvog sklopa) da i sama činjenica da znaš voziti manuelac ništa ti neće pomoći.

Primjera gdje te asistencije ne rade ima, pogotovo na starijim modelima, ali činjenica da iz svake njihove greške oni unapredjuju sisteme. Sjećam se kad je volvo možda prije 10ak godina predstavio svoj sistem automatskog kočenja, na konferenciji za novinare, pa se auto zabio punom brzinom u nepomičnu prikolicu. Prvi put, za taj event, su radili test tako što je auto bio u nekoj zamračenoj hali (tunelu) i onda pri izlasku je izašao na veliku količinu svijetlosti gdje senzor nije imao dovoljno vremena da se prilagodi i desio se udar...Oni su to odma sredili i ostao je zaključak da vozač treba da se ponaša kao da ti sistemi ne postoje.

Kad dodju ovakvi momenti boli me briga da li sistem zaglupljuje vozača https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n44L-SOI1I8
Treba zakonom uvesti da ti sistemi budu dio osnovnog paketa opreme. Smanjiće broj malih gradski udesa u kreni-stani situacijama, do velikih udesa na autoputu gdje vozač zaspi za volanom.


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Ajd ovako ...da li je iko imao priliku da upali auto na kurblu?

Problem je sto asistencije ovakve kakve su danas daju lazni osjecaj sigurnosti, naravno ne sve, a vjerujem da ce za nepar godina covjek biti nepotreban za volanom....
...one slike gdje neko spava za volanom ili kucka poruke u Tesli.....jezim se od toga.

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Evo sa Wiki, malo istorije o adaptivnom tempomatu

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1992: Mitsubishi was the first to offer a lidar-based distance detection system on the Japanese market called Debonair. Marketed as "distance warning", this system warns the driver, without influencing throttle, brakes, or gearshifting.[4][5]

1995: Mitsubishi Diamante introduced laser "Preview Distance Control". This system controlled speed through throttle control and downshifting, not by applying the brakes.[4][6]

1997: Toyota offered a "laser adaptive cruise control" (lidar) system on the Japanese market Celsior.[7] It controlled speed through throttle control and downshifting, not by applying the brakes.

1999: Mercedes introduced "Distronic", the first radar-assisted ACC[citation needed], on the Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W220)[8][9] and the CL-Class.[10]

1999: Jaguar began offering a radar-based ACC system on the Jaguar XK (X100).[11]

1999: Nissan introduced laser ACC on the Japanese market Nissan Cima.[12]

1999: Subaru introduced world's first camera-based ACC on the Japanese-market Subaru Legacy Lancaster.[13]

2000: BMW introduced radar "Active Cruise Control" in Europe on the BMW 7 Series - E38.[14]

2000: Toyota was the first to bring laser ACC to the US market in late 2000, with the LS 430 Dynamic Laser Cruise Control system.[15]

2000: Toyota's laser ACC system added "brake control", that also applies brakes.[7]

2001: Infiniti introduced laser "Intelligent Cruise Control" on the 2002 Infiniti Q45 Third generation F50 and 2002 Infiniti QX4.

2001: Renault introduced ACC on the Renault Vel Satis[16] (supplied by Bosch[17])

2002: Lancia introduced radar ACC (by Bosch) on the Lancia Thesis[18]

2002: Volkswagen introduced radar ACC, manufactured by Autocruise (now TRW), on the Volkswagen Phaeton.

2002: Audi introduced radar ACC (Autocruise) on the Audi A8 in late 2002

2003: Cadillac introduced radar ACC on the Cadillac XLR.[19]

2003: Toyota shifted from laser to radar ACC on the Celsior.[7] The first Lexus Dynamic Radar Cruise Control and a radar-guided pre-collision system appeared on the Lexus LS(XF30) US market facelift.[20]

2004: Toyota added "low-speed tracking mode" to the radar ACC on the Crown Majesta.[7] The low-speed speed tracking mode was a second mode that would warn the driver and provide braking if the car ahead stopped; it could stop the car, but would then deactivate.[21]

2005: In the United States, Acura introduced radar ACC integrated with a Collision avoidance system (Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS)) in the model year 2006 Acura RL.[22]

2005: Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W221) upgraded ACC to completely halt the car if necessary (now called "Distronic Plus" on E-Class and most Mercedes sedans.

2006: Volkswagen Passat B6 introduced radar ACC supplied by Autocruise and TRW, functioning from 30 to 210 km/h. It supported additional function AWV1 and AWV2 to prevent collision, by using the brake system.

2006: Audi introduced full speed range ACC plus on the Audi Q7. In low-speed mode, it warns the driver of a potential collision and prepares emergency braking as needed.[23] The system was supplied by Bosch.

2006: Nissan introduced "Intelligent Cruise Control with Distance Control Assist" on Nissan Fuga.[24] It pushes the gas pedal against the foot when the navigation system observes an unsafe speed. If the Autonomous cruise control system is used, the Distance Control Assistance reduced speed automatically, and warned the driver that with an audible bell sound.

2006: September 2006 Toyota introduced its "all-speed tracking function" for the Lexus LS 460.[7] The radar-assisted system maintained continuous control from speeds from 0 km/h to 100 km/h and is designed to work under stop/go situations such as highway traffic congestion.[25]

2007: BMW introduced full-speed Active Cruise Control Stop-and-Go on the BMW 5 Series (E60).[26]

2008: Lincoln introduced radar ACC on the 2009 Lincoln MKS.

2008: SsangYong Motor Company introduced radar "Active Cruise Control" on the SsangYong Chairman[27]

2008: Volkswagen Passat CC, B6 and Touareg GP. The ACC system updated to support a full auto stop and added Front Assist function to prevent collision working separately of ACC. Front Assist cannot brake automatically, it only increases the pressure in the brake system and warns the driver.

2008: Volkswagen Golf 6 introduced ACC with lidar.

2009: Hyundai introduced radar ACC on Hyundai Equus in Korean market.

2009: ACC and CMBS also became available as optional features in the model year the 2010 Acura MDX[28] Mid Model Change (MMC) and the newly introduced model year 2010 Acura ZDX.[29]

2010: Ford debuts its first ACC on the sixth generation Ford Taurus (option on most models, standard on the SHO)

2010: Audi introduced a GPS-guided radar ACC on Audi A8#D4[30]

2010: Volkswagen Passat B7, CC. Update of ACC and updated Front Assist. Introduced emergency braking, named "City". Car could brake automatically to prevent collision.

2010: Jeep introduced ACC on the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee[31]

2013: Mercedes introduced "Distronic Plus with Steering Assist" (traffic jam assist) on the Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W222)[32]

2013: BMW introduced Active Cruise Control with Traffic Jam Assistant.[33]

2014: Chrysler introduced full speed range radar "Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop+" on the 2015 Chrysler 200.

2014: Tesla introduced autopilot feature to Model S cars, enabling semi-autonomous cruise control.[34][35][36]

2015: Ford introduced first pickup truck with ACC on the 2015 Ford F150.

2015: Honda introduced its European CR-V 2015 with predictive cruise control.[37]

2017: Cadillac introduced its Super Cruise semi-autonomous feature in the model year 2018 CT6 (for cars produced on or after September 6th, 2017). The system used onboard radar and cameras along with LiDAR mapping data, allowing the driver to go hands-free on limited-access highways.

2017: Toyota introduced its safety sense across board on all models as standard feature. Toyota Safety Sense[emoji769] P (TSS-P) includes DRCC (dynamic radar cruise control) that uses a front grille-mounted radar and a forward-facing camera that is designed to detect a vehicle in front and automatically adjust the vehicle's speed to help maintain a pre-set distance behind a vehicle ahead.



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motozeljo je napisao:
Ajd ovako ...da li je iko imao priliku da upali auto na kurblu?


Jesam- Ami 8.

motozeljo je napisao:
Problem je sto asistencije ovakve kakve su danas daju lazni osjecaj sigurnosti, naravno ne sve, a vjerujem da ce za nepar godina covjek biti nepotreban za volanom....
...one slike gdje neko spava za volanom ili kucka poruke u Tesli.....jezim se od toga.



Ja ne vjerujem da će tako brzo doći ful autonomna vožnja.
Ima tu još strašno puno posla za odraditi.


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Jesam- Ami 8.

Takodjer .... Moskvich 2140

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Imao ga moj nastavnik ruskog u osnovnoj.


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Imao ga moj nastavnik ruskog u osnovnoj.


Garant neka crvena boja cigle i oznaka 2140SL sa digitalnim satom od dodatne opreme :D

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Boju si pogodio, ostalog se ne sjećam.


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Corona tuning:

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Šta ti je to prozirno crijevo? :D

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Vid guma- rukom ripne rađene!


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Kako su ti što su rukom ripne radili bili odlično plaćeni u WRC dok su to pravila dozvoljavala...

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Nisam znao da je zabranjeno "dosijecanje". Ali ni ne pratim nešto WRC.
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Damn.
Vidim da nije za normalnu vožnju.


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mirdza je napisao:
Nisam znao da je zabranjeno "dosijecanje". Ali ni ne pratim nešto WRC.
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Toyo R1R ;)


Odavno nema dosjecanja.....

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Vidim da nije za normalnu vožnju.

Imaju ulicnu homologaciju 8) Relativno su "kulturne" u odnosu na ranije:

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