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V@nja ga ima već deset dana 8)

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Meni film nije ništa posebno. Ovih dana sam pogledao nekoliko filmova i svi su bolji od ovoga.


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ljudi a o cemu se film tacno radi.Predpostavljam o 300 spartanaca i termopilski tjesnac pa ta bitka protiv persijanaca?jel to?


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Film se bazira na Millerovoj, stripovskoj, adaptaciji tog dogadjaja.

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E pa, meni se film dopada! Šta ste se svi tu nažuljali k'o stare babe. Svidja vam se Lord of the Rings, a ne svidja vam se 300? Koja je razlika? Zar ne možete normalno sesti i odgledati film bez nekih predrasuda? Izmene su, pored izmišljenih bića, zaista minimalne:

- Kserks nikada nije posetio Grčku.
- Persijanaca je bilo oko 6000.
- Dilios nije vodio onu poslednju bitku ujedinjenih Grka protiv Persijanaca, izvršio je samoubistvo po povratku u Spartu.
- Ephialtes je nakon što je Persijancima otkrio za sporedni put na licu mesta pogubljen.

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Nisam upoznat sa tim istorijskim događajem, djeluje zanimljivo.

Ako se nekome fim sviđa to je OK, meni se nije svidio. Da je rađen klasični ratni film po pitanju tehnike snimanja vjerovatno bi mi bio bolji, ali ovo mi nije sjelo, mada mi se svidjelo kako je Sin City urađen, on je mnogo bolji.


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I da, ne može se porediti sa Lord of the Rings, bar što se mene tiče :)


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Cuo sam da je film extra, samo cekam da ga se docepam :P


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Film se bazira na Millerovoj, stripovskoj, adaptaciji tog dogadjaja.

E ebiga,nisam nikada citao taj strip,jel se strip puno razlikuje od istoriskih dogadjaja?


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Ni ja nisam citao strip. BlackHand je naveo neke od istorijskih nepravilnosti sto se tice filma, pa vjerujem da se one pojavljuju i u stripu. Strip se najvise razlikuje u tome sto je citavoj prici dodao odredjene elemente fantastike.

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odlichan film

a da je dio istorije to je tachno

Battle of Thermopylae
480 BC

On the arrival of Xerxes at Thermopylae, he found that the place was defended by a body of three hundred Spartans and about seven thousand hoplites from other states, commanded by the Spartan king Leonidas.
Xerxes learning about the small number of Greek forces and that several Spartans outside the walls were exercising and combing their hairs, in his perplexity, immediately called Demaratos to explain him the meaning of all these. Demaratos told him that the Spartans will defend the place to the death and it was custom to wash and dress their hairs with special care when they intended to put their lives in great danger. Xerxes who did not believe Demaratos, delayed his attack for four days, thinking that the Greeks as soon as they would realize his great forces will disperse.
He sent also heralds asking to deliver up their arms. The answer from Leonidas was "come and take them" (Μολών λαβέ).
A Spartan, who was told about the great number of Persian soldiers, who with their arrows will conceal the sun, he answered: "so much the better, we will fight in the shade".At the fifth day Xerxes attacked but without any results and with heavy losses, though the Medes fought bravely. He then ordered his personal guard the "Immortals" under Hyrdanes, a body of ten thousand consisting from the best Persian soldiers, to advance. They also failed and Xerxes was observed to jump from his throne three times in anger and agony. The following day they attacked, but again made no progress. Xerxes was desperate but his luck changed when a Malian named Ephialtes told him about a secret path across the mountain. Immediately a strong Persian force was sent with Hyrdanes, guided by the traitor. At day's break they reached the summit, where the Phokian army was stationed and who upon seeing the Persians fled.
When Leonidas learned all these incidents, he ordered the council of war to be summoned. Many were of the opinion that they should retire and find a better defendable place, but Leonidas, who was bound by the laws of Sparta and from an oracle, which had declared that either Sparta or a Spartan king must perish, refused. Three hundred Spartans and seven hundred Thespians took the decision to stay and fight. The rest were permitted to leave, with the exception of four hundred Boeotians, which were retained as hostages.



Leonidas did not wait the Persian attack, which had being delayed by Xerxes and advanced in the path, he fell upon the Persians. Thousands of them were slain, the rest were driven near the sea, but when the Spartan spears broke, they started having losses and one of the first that fell was king Leonidas. Around his body one of the fiercest battles took place. Four times the Persians attacked to obtain it and four times they were repulsed. At the end, the Spartans exhausted and wounded, carrying the body of Leonidas, retired behind the wall, but they were surrounded by the enemy, who killed them with arrows.
On the spot, a marble lion was set by the Greeks in honor of Leonidas and his men, together with two other monuments near by. On one of them, the memorable words were written:
"Ω ξείν αγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις, ότι τήδε κείμεθα,
τοις κείνων ρήμασι πειθόμενοι".

"Oh stranger tell the Lacedaemonians, that we lie here,
obedient to their laws".


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idem veceras na predpremijeru pa cu javiti utiske:)

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Na šta se odnosi ovo ? :D :D :D

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Na ovo što je Gazda postavio, na taj istorijski događaj.


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Blah... pokušaću negde da iskopam svoj maturski rad. To sam radio kao temu :) Tačnije radio sam Grčko-Persijske ratove, a to je u sklopu toga. Velika većina toga su samo mitovi, ali ovde se radi o događaju koji se zaista odigrao, samo je malo vremenom prenaduvan.

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Gledao sam na HRT emisiju o bitci u Termopiliju, bogme je trajala oko sat vremena, i sve je lijepo i tacno opisano, al sam ja pozaboravljao :lol:

A film mi je skroz ok, cak i dobar, jedino sto pretjerase brate s onim slonovima od 30 metara, onim "cudovistima" aka vojskom besmrtnih i tako, jos nekih bezvezarija bez kojih bi film bio bolji i autenticniji istorijskim dogadjajima, ali eto, kad hoce po stripu, neka im...
Uh, ali ima bas fascinantnih kadrova, odlicnog "osvijetljenja" i emocijama nabijenih izjava. Vrijedi pogledati, ako nista, barem te motivise da krenes u teretanu (al dzaba mu, ja ne isao tamo) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jao, jesu dobri glumci, auuuuuuuuuu!

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Sinoc sam gledala ovaj film. Meni je fenomenalan. Svi kadrovi su stripovski. Uspeli su u onom sto su hteli da postignu.
Jos uvek sam pod utiskom filma. Pogotovo mi se svidjelo kad kraljica macem proskakilja utrobu onom ljigavom politicaru. Odmah mi proradi masta i bacim se u sanjarenej o istoj radnji, uz napomenu da bih ja sve politicare po istom postupku prekrstila.

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Meni se ta scena svidjela zbog onoga što je ona njemu tada rekla, istim riječima kao on njoj :)


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